Wikipedia talk:French Collaboration Project

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French Collaboration Project draft

This is a working draft for a proposed French collaboration project. See User talk:Cedar-Guardian for discussion of this project. This draft borrows heavily from Wikipedia:Spanish Translation of the Week, but is also behoven to other user's suggestions. --NYArtsnWords 16 December 2005 (UTC)


CG - I was just wondering... why did you get rid of the "List of High Priority Translations"?

This was a concession I put in the project for those people who don't necessarily want to work on only the Translation of the Month (see your talkpage). Maybe this idea can be put back in some how?

Also - I don't see why a link to the Portal:France in a "See also" section at the bottom of the project page compromises in any way the project's emphasis on French translation, especially if other links are also placed there, like Portal:Quebec, etc. Just my 2 cents. --NYArtsnWords 22:57, 17 December 2005 (UTC)


I still think we're starting off a bit high here; I would put more emphasis on translating even smaller, not featured type articles. I've quite a bit of experience in the German/ English translation department, and to translate a lenghty, or perhaps even featurd article can take up to one year. Lectonar 08:56, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


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Maria Sibylla Merian

I've translated some stuff from there, could someone check over it, and let me know if the translation is good enough and if its worth me continuing in this project. I realise there will be some mistakes, but if you think its so bad that you have to start again, let me know :) - FrancisTyers 17:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


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Template created

I've created all the templates necessary for the project. Any last comments? CG 22:23, 25 December 2005 (UTC)


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Featured article?

I must say that I was a bit shocked upon reading the following:

Unfortunately, very few articles from the French wikipedia would be accepted as featured articles on either the German or English wikipedia as the latter two's standards are simply much higher. Keep in mind that this remark applies to articles de qualité as well as "normal" articles in the French wikipedia. While the text I have quoted above does not give bad advice -- it includes the proviso "if appropriate" -- it seems to suggest that often all we'll need to do is to translate a reasonably good French article, rework it a bit and it'll be well on the road to featured status. Anyone who thinks this will be in for a very rude awakening, I fear. (By the way, I've commented on FR and several people have agreed with me here, that is, that the standards for Articles de Qualité need to be improved. It's one of the things that's holding back this version of wikipedia). At any rate, unless someone can present me with a good reason to keep this above-quoted sentence, I'm going to modify it a bit.

--Zantastik 18:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)




Templates

Could we model our templates off of something more appealing than the Spanish one? Wikipedia:Texan Collaboration of the Month has a decent one. Use a flag or some notable symbol... granted there are many French speaking countries so I suppose this is like the controversy on the commons. It's not a big deal... but, does anyone else find them ugly?




Collaboration

While looking at Communes of the Seine-et-Marne département and thinking of maintenance collaborations I had another idea. While a real translation project is probably the best idea (and main focus), could we not have a little maintenance translation project monthly, or biweekly. Translating a commune page is incredibly easy since most of them have only a template which can be copied and pasted to Template:French commune with little effort and a stock sentence which you can actually copy and paste from one to another just changing article title. I have started on the list for Sein-et-Marne and I think it would be more heartening if any of us working on communes tries to get one list done rather than make little dents in lists all over the place. If one of the articles has a bunch of translating to do then skip it and go onto the next if you don't want to translate too much. Just an idea. gren ??? 11:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

  • You're probably aware of Wikipedia:WikiProject_French_communes - it might be worth posting progress there as well. Dlyons493 Talk 14:46, 14 January 2006 (UTC)



Quick note

Just a quick note: The new collaboration of the month will be choosen in January 14. That is 7 days after the first nominations. I hope it's OK. CG 11:24, 10 January 2006 (UTC)




How is the collaboration meant to work?

Sorry, but I'm a bit vague about how the collaboration is meant to work. Presumably if several people just start away on translating the article there will be a lot of needless reduplication of work. Should someone take responsibility for producing a first draft, or different people take responsibility for proucing first drafts of different sections, after which the normal wiki-editing process will take care of refining the translations? Or else how will it work? Palmiro | Talk 16:01, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Here's a proposal:
    1. Append the French text as a comment in the article (done)
    2. Provide an initial translation in the comment (done)
    3. Move the new paragraphs as needed to the body of the article, removing duplicate parts
    4. Copyedit, cleanup

Ze miguel 11:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)




France-related topics notice board

I have set up a Wikipedia:France-related topics notice board, which includes links to relevant wikiprojects (like the communes project listed above and the FCP) and which could become a forum for expanding France-related articles in the English wikipedia. I hope that others will find it useful and I encourage Francophiles to participate. --NYArtsnWords 20:45, 5 March 2006 (UTC)




Status of project

What is the status of this project? Things seemed to have stalled somewhat. Frenchgeek 04:14, 2 April 2006 (UTC)




Article Translation

I wasn't sure where to put this so here you go.

I think the following article would be useful to have in French: COMILOG_Cableway. Waarmstr 13:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)




Translation Templates

I found code for other languages to English, but is there a template for English articles that should be translated into other languages? {{Translation request|LANGUAGE}} Waarmstr 13:33, 17 July 2006 (UTC)




comment by User:Wser from top of main page

I wanted to take on this project, but as soon as I started reorganising this page, and another similar one, it got reverted...so I gave up. However, I am still willing to translate, and so I have set up a special page on my profile (User:Wser/French_translation).




Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 13:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)




WikiProject France

A proposal has been made for the above WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France. Have a look and feel free to contribute. STTW (talk) 18:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)




Move to Wikipedia:Translation

Bonjour!

As you may know, the old translation project has recently been replaced by Wikipedia:Translation. From now on, translations from French will be dealt with at Wikipedia:Translation/_fr. The French Translation of the Week, however, will stay in a separate, renamed version of the French Collaboration Project page.

If you have any questions or comments, please post them on the project's talkpage.

Cordialement,

Marialadouce | parlami 20:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)




Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 18:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)





Jean-Paul Ney

Although the Jean-Paul Ney article itself doesn't need translation from French to English, it needs some expert eyes to review the French sources that are being or proposed to be used to reference the content. There have been some edit wars and a lot of potentially libelous material warred over, with legal threats and insults thrown into the mix. Can someone take a look at the article and its discussion page, perhaps weigh in to sort out fact from fiction? Thanks! Dreadstar + 01:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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